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Back at the Cave

13th Sep 2013

Back at the Cave

Back at the Cave

13th Sep 2013

Author Notes:

Amocin 13th Sep 2013, 12:00 AM edit delete
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Guest 13th Sep 2013, 12:02 AM edit delete reply
Oh my....poor Shai :( his expression....indescribable feelings emerged :(
Guest 13th Sep 2013, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
Aw, I was hoping to see Amo tell Shaidon about what happened. Oh well, this comic is still one of the best.
Toumak 13th Sep 2013, 12:08 AM edit delete reply
Lol! Serid's face in last panel, priceless xD
Famous 13th Sep 2013, 12:10 AM edit delete reply
I love how Serid is just like :O when he sees Shai yelling at Drogan. Made my night!
Konran 13th Sep 2013, 12:24 AM edit delete reply
I really feel like that last line needed an exclamation point.

That said, it's a great response. Let the drama ensue!
Blaidd 13th Sep 2013, 12:43 AM edit delete reply
Was wondering how Shai was going to respond to the news. Kinda figured, pissed but somewhat understanding (as shown in the panel when Amo tells him his time with her is finite). She has been, and always will be my fav character in this webcomic. Keep up the amazing work Amocin :3
Ramol 13th Sep 2013, 1:07 AM edit delete reply
Interesting turn in the comic What next pally/druid duel? or is someone going to rage out and try to kill all the worgen dk's in there area?
Ramol 13th Sep 2013, 1:07 AM edit delete reply
Not including Amo forgot that :P
Silvermane 13th Sep 2013, 1:22 AM edit delete reply
He should be thankful he is getting yelled at and not punched in the face. Then again as a dragon it'd probably not hurt save for his pride. This is why you don't fraternize with party members, you never know when its going to come back to bite you in the ass.
Fussed 13th Sep 2013, 2:18 AM edit delete reply
You know.. Sadly... I can understand the feeling of hate going through him.
Dreamfox 13th Sep 2013, 2:35 AM edit delete reply
Wrong moment for the wrong person to speak out.

As it has been said: The worst monster in a Game Masters arsenal are the other party members.
Rembrant 13th Sep 2013, 3:37 AM edit delete reply
It's funny cute how Kinar's just lounging around in feral form. But then of course, this is the solemn moment of the meeting between the fan and the fecal matter, as expected. I have to say I take Shai's side on this. And Drogan likely didn't even know Amo was married when he had sex with her, but that's likely to nto do much to lessen this situation.
Illusion 13th Sep 2013, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
It's Serid in feral form, not Kinar :)
Dreamfox 13th Sep 2013, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
That's how you see, that he isn't the paladin he claims to be. Not enough wisdom.

He could have guessed the reason why they are yelling, especially since he had found out that they are married after having sex with Amo.

And it looked like Shaidan was on his way to cool down, understanding her reasoning, but Drogan had to poke the irritated beehive with a stick.
Amocin 13th Sep 2013, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
Drogan never asked why they were yelling.

Also, though he is a Dragon, he does still follow the Paladin code. If Amo did not inform Shai what had happened, he would have found a better time to break it to Shai himself.

It's not like he walked in there intending to make a bad situation worse.. Sometimes we have no idea what we are walking into.
Josh.C 13th Sep 2013, 2:06 PM edit delete reply
Not to mention not giving their position away is a very valid point.

Shaidan probably knows that Drogan is a dragon by now, what are the odds that Shaidan could actually take a dragon like Drogan?
Dreamfox 16th Sep 2013, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
Not a chance that he would take on a dragon for this. On the other hand, Drogan needs the group, especially Kinar, Shaidan's sister.He looses Shaidan, he may loose a sizeable part of the party. Leaving him with a group of worgen DK's that want to take over the world.
Dreamfox 14th Sep 2013, 9:27 PM edit delete reply
I should have added this to make my statement clearer: ;)
Explanation: The classic Paladin in D&D needs a high Wisdom for his spells and abilities.
Drogan could (could, not must) have guessed why they were yelling.
In any case, common wisdom tells you to stay out of family disputs. It never ends well for the one interfering.

Well, so much for my jokingly reasoning.
Cairns 13th Sep 2013, 4:31 AM edit delete reply
Haha Drogans eyes at the last picture is so priceless :D
Dekwa 13th Sep 2013, 10:09 AM edit delete reply
"oh crap..."
Druidikus 13th Sep 2013, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
Oh, ehmm...
That's a good Reason to hate him.
I don't know why but NOW I like Shai :)
Good Page, Amocin
Veritas 19th Sep 2013, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
Really? I suppose you missed page 86 where Drogan had to be told Amo and Shai were married?

This is a pure jerkass move that took away every scrap of sympathy I might have otherwise gained for Shaidan. It's trite, it's ugly, and it never accomplishes anything worthwhile.
Amocin 19th Sep 2013, 8:55 AM edit delete reply
Really? I find it odd that a man getting upset that his wife slept with another person, and thereby acting somewhat irrationally, removes sympathy..

Sometimes when people are upset, they dont always mean what they say, and usually regret what they did because emotions got the better of them. Nobody is perfect, and sometimes we slip.
Veritas 19th Sep 2013, 5:24 PM edit delete reply
It destroys my sympathy because it is, at its root, victim-blaming. Drogan was kept in the dark and used, and then not only did Amo snap at him over it, he's taking flak from Shai over what Amo did.

At the time, Drogan wasn't fucking anyone's wife - not so far as he knew. It was Amo's responsibility to inform or (more likely, since Shai obviously isn't on board with the plan) abstain, not Drogan's to read her mind and refuse.

And it's not like he didn't start to demur before she pushed the issue. Brief though that hesitation may have been, she was also already feeling him up at the time. Questionable enough right there.

Drogan didn't deserve hostility from Amo for what she started, and he certainly didn't deserve one iota of it from Shai.

I've seen it happen time and again, for some reason held up as a staple of infidelity and all too often as a thing to be admired, and I simply cannot take the side of the jealous partner blaming the *ignorant* "other wo/man". Shai deserves to feel hurt. He does not deserve to take it out on Drogan.
Amocin 19th Sep 2013, 8:29 PM edit delete reply
I think you are reading far too much into this. This is about ten minutes after finding out that his wife slept with another man. He hasnt been able to sleep on it, walk it off, or even clear his head.

I dont want to seem bias because its my story or my characters, but dont you think you are judging him too quickly for an emotional response that likely wouldnt have happened if he had more time to cool his head.

Does this make him right? No.. But I find it a little weird to say "I no longer feel bad he got cheated on because he reacted poorly because of it." Its just downright silly.
Synica 13th Sep 2013, 6:24 AM edit delete reply
Oh snap!
death lover 13th Sep 2013, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
lol I cant stop lafing and filing bad for shai and amo. also as always a good work and continue with it you made my day : ( I am sick but this just made my day XD serid in last panel is like 8 O drogan did WHAT!!! XD. also I am a litle bit like amo the dirtier the story the beter >8D and thats one of two reasons I love the comic and the second is the story itself because there are things I want to know about the characters and that makes it interesting. good work and continue like that.
death lover 13th Sep 2013, 12:09 PM edit delete reply
I forgot to say that love how drogan is like shit I will get punched ( sorry if you dont understand some of my writingbad english)
Shade 13th Sep 2013, 4:14 PM edit delete reply
It would be interesting f Drogan's seed revitalizes Amo's womb and she actually conceive from the previous sex with Shai
Guest 13th Sep 2013, 7:01 PM edit delete reply
That would be very awesome.
Rankamateur 14th Sep 2013, 8:15 AM edit delete reply
If Amocin continues to follow the lore of Azeroth as previously determined in game, then that will not happen. If the aspect of life (and queen of the red dragonflight) is not able to remove the undead plague/curse, then one of her underlings has no chance at all.
Barajas13 13th Sep 2013, 8:07 PM edit delete reply
and then drogan says "ether way...it felt goooooood" xD
DragonMage 14th Sep 2013, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
I'm wondering are we going to get a lesbian scene?
Amocin 14th Sep 2013, 1:37 AM edit delete reply
No, this is a hetro only comic. The females of the comic do tend to team up in donation pics, but that is for donation pics only.
LordWorpeltinger 19th Sep 2013, 4:38 PM edit delete reply
Pity, there's always fun in a random girl on girl kiss and one's very much heterosexual.
Shai: Amo? Why did you just kiss her?
Amo: Just to mess with her head.
Guest 14th Sep 2013, 2:48 AM edit delete reply
What's the meaning of Shai's facial expression in the 3rd panel?
Amocin 14th Sep 2013, 11:05 AM edit delete reply
He understands where she is coming from, doesnt mean he likes it, but its a sad truth.
withpuppys 14th Sep 2013, 7:46 AM edit delete reply
called it
withpuppys 14th Sep 2013, 7:48 AM edit delete reply
never mess with a worgen
Jake 14th Sep 2013, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
Why would Amo think that was, in any way okay? Honestly, if her husband doesn't have everlasting life, the least she could do is be faithful to him until he passes. When she said, "I didn't want to miss the oppurtunity" and then said right after, "I have all the time in the world," Got me thinking: Doesn't that just put her even more into the wrong? If she has all the time in the world, then she would have another oppurtunity. Now, if the characters were flipped (and I'm not saying that he would be in the right either) but if Shaidon cheated on Amo and then he said that he only had a limited life span, then it would make more sense.

My conclusion, Shai is in the right to get angry. I know I'd be if someone screwed my wife. However, I'd be even more angry if I found out that my wife started it.

Anyway, not to be the negative guy, but I wanted to throw that out there. But awesme comic. It gets me even more excited for fridays. :)
Rankamateur 14th Sep 2013, 8:24 AM edit delete reply
The "opportunity" that Amo had was the chance to take advantage of a red dragon's ability to mystically propagate life. All dragons...and red ones in particular...are reclusive, and it is a rare thing indeed to find one interacting with mortals. So, it was very unlikely that a chance like this would come her way again.

As for why Amo would think that what she did was "in any way okay", you have to realize that she is desperate to find `any way' to cure herself of undeath...and desperation makes people do unwise things. If you were cursed to watch your beloved mate age and wither away without ever having children...would you not grasp at any straw that might change that fate?
Amocin 14th Sep 2013, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
Jake, pretty much what Rankamateur said.

She didnt risk missing the opportunity because it was not likely to present itself again within Shai's lifespan. She wasnt doing it for pleasure, she was doing it for the chance to grow old with Shai. She feels rushed into finding a cure for his sake, because her time frame is based off his aging.
Guest 16th Sep 2013, 11:06 PM edit delete reply
Out of curiosity, and I apologize if this has already been answered but, couldn't Amo have simply asked Drogan if Red Dragons could cure undeath in any way and if she did, would Drogan simply lie as to not disclose information to someone who is already undead especially given his dislike of the undead?
Amocin 17th Sep 2013, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
Asking Drogan would have done her little good as she had never heard of somebody even attempting to go at it from that angle. Sometimes you have to be the first to try something.

However, if she had talked about it with Drogan first, he wouldnt have lied to her. He follows the Paladin code, which includes no lying, ever, no matter what.

Despite his hatred for the undead, redeemable qualities cannot be ignored. Amo does not act in an evil manner, and even when she does do bad things, they are usually for the good of those she cares about.
Zinjak 14th Sep 2013, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
did Drogan even know? i dont beleive he did
Grimlos 15th Sep 2013, 2:59 AM edit delete reply
No, he thought Kinar and Amo were sisters and Shai hadn't even shown up in Icecrown yet.

There's been a lot of blame thrown around at both Amo and now even Drogan a bit. It falls kinda short on me considering Amo's reasons, feelings of guilt and how Drogan was unaware of Amo and Shai's relation. Amo didn't "cheat" on Shai in the aspect that she would like to be Drogan's mate. It was strictly to try and cure her of her undead state. A lot of people seem to have such huge issues with this. I feel there needs to be made a distinction between lovemaking and just intercourse (the latter for practical reasons, in this case).
Guest 15th Sep 2013, 2:22 AM edit delete reply
I was wondering, does anyone know that Drogan is a dragon? I also just noticed that his name is actually an acronym for dragon.
Bill 15th Sep 2013, 2:24 AM edit delete reply
Wow drogan shouldn't have said anything ha look what he did with a few words (and having sex with amo) he complete pissed him off :| if I was drogan I wouldn't have said shit
Spamer (jk) 15th Sep 2013, 2:48 AM edit delete reply
Have you ever read something without music and added your own music to make it seem interesting? I read this comic 7 times listening to this one song over and over then I forgot about it and now I found it again and its making remember all the parts I read when that part of the song is going :|
Luragab 15th Sep 2013, 8:58 PM edit delete reply
I love your comic series, wait every friday flr them Cant wait for the next... Btw, nice idea of characters/races/names! Kep up the gud work :)
death lover 16th Sep 2013, 11:29 PM edit delete reply
hehe lol gud work : P
Specula 17th Sep 2013, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
I'm still not sure I understand what's going on. So she cheated on him in the hopes that Drogan could somehow give her the children she wanted, since she couldn't have them with her husband? Or is there something else I'm missing?
Ramol 17th Sep 2013, 11:08 PM edit delete reply
she had sex with Drogan as an attempt to be actually living instead of dead so she can have children with Shai
Amocin 18th Sep 2013, 2:03 AM edit delete reply
Drogan is a red dragon, their aspect is life. Flowers grow under their footsteps, and the earth is renewed around them, just by being there. She assumed that if she slept with him and took a part of him into her body, it would give her life, something she wanted so she could have a mortal existence with her husband.
Specula 18th Sep 2013, 4:30 AM edit delete reply
I see, that makes a bit more sense. Thanks.
death lover 17th Sep 2013, 10:26 PM edit delete reply
look specula, amo is a deathnight so she is infertil O sopose she thaught that having relations woth drogan ( a paladian (knight of the light)) the light powers would give her back her fertility thats why she cheated on her usband, she did that because of the benefit of both and thats why I think shi is not so mad at her.
Specula 18th Sep 2013, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
Please don't type using a potato. It's hard enough to understand what you're trying to say as is.
Amocin 18th Sep 2013, 10:25 AM edit delete reply
It's obvious English is not his first language. There is only so much he can do with that. This statement is very rude, and future ones like this will be deleted.
Specula 18th Sep 2013, 5:30 PM edit delete reply
I seriously doubt that English is not his first language, he just can't type. His tone wasn't that friendly either.
Guest 18th Sep 2013, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
Awwwww shit is about to go down, * grabs popcorn*
Viverred 18th Sep 2013, 11:23 AM edit delete reply
wow! a lot of fireworks in the posts. suffice it to say everybody has their own morals. which dictates what they will and will not do. i understand Amo's dilemma, and can't fault her for it. (DK's are MADE, they don't ask for volunteers) Personally, i'd like to see some sort of resolution for her. I fear that if she doesn't find one, it may drive her over to the dark side.
Philo Wintercoat 18th Sep 2013, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
Then suddenly Mordin walks in going "Wait, what!?".
Ramol 19th Sep 2013, 1:12 AM edit delete reply
I was wondering if Kinar is a black furred worgen then why does she have shite fur in her cat form?
Amocin 19th Sep 2013, 1:20 AM edit delete reply
For Worgen, feral coloration is based off human hair color.
Ramol 19th Sep 2013, 1:21 AM edit delete reply
Oops meant "white" not shite
WhiteLion621 7th Feb 2014, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
"I didn't wanna miss the opportunity." What? Okay i was thinking that she is just a whore after saying that (still she is my fav) But then "I have all the time in world to search for a cure..." Then i thought. She was infected with something. And then it hit me! She is undead. She and Shai want kids. Can't cause she is undead. And Drogan. Is a Red Dragon, and a paladin! So i am guessing she was hopeing his...(gonna sounds silly) cum would "resurect" her (in a word) or cure her?