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Twenty Men

28th Nov 2013

Twenty Men

Twenty Men

28th Nov 2013

Author Notes:

Amocin 28th Nov 2013, 11:00 PM edit delete
Hope everybody had a Happy Turkey Day and ate your fill. Be careful if you decide to brave the shopping centers.

Also, only a few days left to donate for the Drogan/Serid/Mordin/Kinar pic.. Sorry there has not been a preview, this has been a bad month in general.

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Lionmane 29th Nov 2013, 12:54 AM edit delete reply
Amocin, I've been a long dedicated fan of your Comic series and I wanted to take a moment to say I have a lot of appreciation for your work on this series. Keep up the good work!
Zack Cloud 29th Nov 2013, 12:56 AM edit delete reply
so...is Drogan gonna save Amo or what? even though I hate Amo...I just want to know if she is gonna be alright.
Amocin 29th Nov 2013, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
I will quote this from a few pages back.

"Zack, this is your final warning. After this, any comments with Amo hate in them will result in me deleting every post you make, no matter how tame."

Your "Even though I hate Amo" comment was unnessacary. You could remove that part and it would still be the same comment..

You were warned.. You will no longer be able to comment on these boards.
Amocin 29th Nov 2013, 9:53 AM edit delete reply
Yes you could post under a different name, couldnt stop you.. But I will be deleting every post that uselessly mentions that they hate Amo. Because thats the key problem here.
withpuppys 29th Nov 2013, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
you are interfering with free speech. even though i love amo i see their side as well. amo is recklessand self centered. she even went behind your husbands back and cheat on him. even if it is out of good intention. that is no escuse. these people have the right to express their opinion. who are you to deny them this right. god? no i don't think so
Amocin 29th Nov 2013, 9:36 PM edit delete reply
Freedom of Speech only goes so far. You are free to speak, and I am free to remove it. This is my board, you will follow my rules.

This is not due to any disagreement I have with Zack, I believe he is allowed to have an opinion. But he has stated many times that he hates Amo, and the horrible things he would like seen done to her. This has started to create drama with the other commenters/fans, so I asked him to stop. He did not, he was warned to stop or he would be removed, he continued.

This does not mean that I have a god complex, this makes me a person being an admin on my own boards.
Kit 30th Nov 2013, 1:10 AM edit delete reply
Only the government may not block free speech. Anywhere else, the right to free speech ends at the admin and the users have only the right to deal with it or leave. There is no right to free speech in private locations, institutions, etc. So yes, they have a right to express their opinion, and she has the right to block that expression in locations she controls.
Akela 30th Nov 2013, 3:52 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, theres freedom of speech...but she has the ban hammer, so its basically her way, or dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Nuff' said.
TimeShift 30th Nov 2013, 4:24 AM edit delete reply
sorry pal, but "freedom" ends where it interferes with the freedom of another. If someone doesn't want to hear something, you're not allowed to force this person to hear it - nor is it covered with "freedom of speech".

You are, however, allowed to write this sentence you simply have to write, onto your walls, your car, your floor, tattoo it onto your forehead or into those of your puppies. THAT's what freedom is all about. But NOT to upset others with your misinterpretation of what is right and what is wrong.
Guest 6th Dec 2013, 12:00 AM edit delete reply
I disagree with Zack, and really like Amo, but I still don't think it's right that his comments are being removed. Although, if it's only the ones with "Amo" and "hate", then I guess there's no real issue.

I for one think adding in that line there wasn't entirely bad. For one, it would ward off those annoyingly common comments along the lines of "But I thought you hated her? Why're you wanting her rescues now?", or even just ward off similar thoughts in the reader's mind. Additionally, it could possibly be seen as a way to sort of save face. If a previous Amo hate comment had an unexpected public backlash, effectively saying "But I really do actually like Amo" could soften other's opinions.

Of course, I almost never read the comments, so there could be history here. If he seemed to have just added in that "hate" to spite you, censoring his posts is entirely justified.

Not really sure why I decided that I need to comment on this, butt... god it's late.
Amocin 6th Dec 2013, 12:10 AM edit delete reply
There is plenty of history, you can go back to the page where Shai hit Drogan and search for his comments.. There you will see the string of other comments that made me push this final choice.

Anything more then what you cant read on the pages I will keep to myself.
Prrowl 29th Nov 2013, 12:59 AM edit delete reply
Of course you can't do it with 20 men... it's a boss fight, you need at least 25.
*nods sagely*
Rankamateur 29th Nov 2013, 3:55 AM edit delete reply
Apparently, they forgot to set the raid difficulty to ten. Looks like a wipe...
Druidikus 29th Nov 2013, 5:26 AM edit delete reply
Maybe it is even 40-man ^^
Looks for the old Onyxia-Raid :D
Atlas 29th Nov 2013, 4:19 PM edit delete reply
not to mention no healers ^_^
Fussed 4th Dec 2013, 10:51 AM edit delete reply
And a lack of obvious tank swaps being called. Agro is all over the place!
BluePancakes 30th Nov 2013, 8:54 AM edit delete reply
an Ancient Red Dragon is like a CR80. that means with 20 of them they all have to be about epic level Lvl 35 to survive retreat, let alone land a hit.
cynder2011 1st Dec 2013, 4:02 AM edit delete reply
this had me laughing like crazy

@Amocin :D Great Comic still....i cant believe I've been following this for over a year :D
Lohharddon 2nd Dec 2013, 3:38 PM edit delete reply
Hopefully it goes on for another year :P
Guest 29th Nov 2013, 1:18 AM edit delete reply
lol love this page like a raid that someone just walks in and boss is already pulled and you have to jump into the action or be like "retreat!"
Anselm 29th Nov 2013, 1:21 AM edit delete reply
Aetheos 29th Nov 2013, 1:27 AM edit delete reply
At first I thought the Death Knights stood a chance and honestly I expected more of a fight but the way Amocin runs the comic is really fascinating to say the least. Amocin really knows how to keep things rolling and maybe leave you disappointed for a page or two, though that's to be expected as you can't appeal to everyone, and though you're disappointed from time to time Amocin makes up for it a few pages later with something really unexpected to make you wonder what will happen next. Amazing job so far amocin and please keep up the good work.
Grimlos 29th Nov 2013, 1:51 AM edit delete reply
That's what happens when you ninja pull! Back to spamming Trade for "Lf5m Drogan DK only" hah
ace 29th Nov 2013, 2:09 AM edit delete reply
underlings fucking up since the begining of time
malin 29th Nov 2013, 2:21 AM edit delete reply
Silly Worgen you can't fly.

God I love this comic. Reading it has become one of the highlights of my week. Though I am curious Amocin, I know this comic is called Druids, but are we going to get to see any other classes in action other then Druids, and death knights?
Jiala 29th Nov 2013, 7:49 PM edit delete reply
Should give him the quest reward, "Flying Worgan Robes," if he survives. <.> http://www.wowhead.com/item=58216/
Fluttershy 29th Nov 2013, 3:51 AM edit delete reply
Even without the shading its amazing ^-^ Love it. Keep it up~
danthehorseman 29th Nov 2013, 4:29 AM edit delete reply
Finally they learn. I can't wait to she her situation. I hope your well. Have a nice evening and nice turkey weekend. Bye for now Danny. For the horse I mean horde.
Trax 29th Nov 2013, 5:15 AM edit delete reply
Understandble if you got a bissy month i doubt there is many that gets upset if your a few houers late, atleast you post it even if your not 100% complete i like that :)

And wonderful look on the happy wolf telling hes leader we got drogan surrounded :P

And finnaly 3 cheers for banning Zack :)
Dreamfox 29th Nov 2013, 5:26 AM edit delete reply
They have 'captured one of the women'? Ah, yes, mhm, sure. And how many of your men have you set aside to guard her? How many did you put aside that you don't have to *chuckle* take down Drogan? Are you really sure you still have her?
Comedy gold.
Kit 3rd Dec 2013, 8:01 AM edit delete reply
If it's any indication, before I got further in panels, I thought the flying DK might have been Amo's doing. XD
Dsl 29th Nov 2013, 6:42 AM edit delete reply
I know I asked you this before but I can't remember where in th comic soooooo...... Is Amo based off yourself?
nolife05 29th Nov 2013, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
poor amo. I hope she is gonna be alright
Guest 29th Nov 2013, 7:01 AM edit delete reply
Seriously, am I the only one worried for Amo here?

Awhile back these were the same Deathknights trying to capture them both to rape them

Hope nothing bad happens :x
Talof 29th Nov 2013, 9:12 AM edit delete reply
Love this page x3

A little off topic but did you make this website or did someone make it for you.
Also if you did, could you show me how to get/make one?
Kai 29th Nov 2013, 10:00 AM edit delete reply
Your storyline and mixture of adult content is very well done. I'm curious if you'd ever write in a female dragon character. It would be interesting to see how you would develop a female dragon's personality since Drogan turned out to be a level headed thinker and ended up defusing a volatile situation with a surprising show of self-restraint and consideration for Amo's husband.
FreezeBrand 29th Nov 2013, 10:39 AM edit delete reply
I really like when your comic is shaded, it's like cake with icing. However, your comic without shading is still CAKE!No one should complain about cake. I like Amo, and I hope she gets away or is rescued by Drogan.
Anonymous 29th Nov 2013, 11:16 AM edit delete reply
I sense an adult scene with Amo coming up.
Marc 29th Nov 2013, 11:56 AM edit delete reply
It's gonna sucks if it will be forced >.<
Lurky 29th Nov 2013, 12:18 PM edit delete reply
I love the Worgen's face, in the middle at the bottom. He looks so pleased with himself. Like a cat, who just brought his owner a dead mouse.
Guest 29th Nov 2013, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
I love the second to last panel, the worgen is such a happy puppy who thinks he did good. Great expressions! Love everything about this comic.
honorkill 29th Nov 2013, 5:27 PM edit delete reply
just wondering will the Dk's rape amo like they where planing to do a while back.ceep the good woork up:)
Fisch 29th Nov 2013, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
I doubt Amo will get raped, but I think those DK's could try to convert her to their cause. That would be truly evil.
Josh.C 29th Nov 2013, 9:25 PM edit delete reply
He's so happy with their accomplishment.

Of course they're getting their keisters handed to them by Drogan. But they did capture a single one of the women and get Drogan alone. By now Amo has probably eaten all their sandwiches.
Rembrant 29th Nov 2013, 9:59 PM edit delete reply
Heh. This page does have a couple of effective funny bits, what with the "saw that" third panel, and the next to last panel. That death knight worgen looks so gosh darned happy! He looks so adorable that for a moment you forget he's supposed to be the bad guy.
Zieg 30th Nov 2013, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
I figured I'd keep asking questions like my last. Seeing as how I'm engrossed in the story of the comic and can't wait to see where it goes. :) I'll post two to make up for not asking one on the last page. Think I'll make posting a question a page a regular thing of mine.

First one is do you have a favorite character in the comic? I know as a writer it's hard to pick which of your characters you like the best but I'm curious. I'm partial to Koutack myself and can't wait to see him in action again.

Second is how do you determine what the monthly donation pictures will be? Last time you said you take into consideration what your readers want to see. Is it based off of the comments on the pages or is it through the e-mails from donators saying what they'd like to see next?
Amocin 30th Nov 2013, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
My favorite characters are Serid and Drogan, mostly because I just like drawing them. I dont think I can pick any particular character as a favorite as far as their attitude goes. As the writer its hard to do that.

We used to have a forum that people could request what they want to see.. However the problem with that was that we were getting requests from people who never actually donated, even when it was something they wanted to see.. So instead we went with what donators sent in as far as requests in the emails, and now we have a spreadsheet we send out to all donators asking them what they would like to see next, then we go based off of that, and fill in the blanks when no other suggestion has come up.
Luna 30th Nov 2013, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
First thing that came to my mind in panel 2 was "Wheee~!"
tony 30th Nov 2013, 10:20 AM edit delete reply
the first thing that came to my mind was can you fly "crash" hmm guess not
lord arathord 30th Nov 2013, 1:03 AM edit delete reply
look! a flying worgen! make a wish!!!
BluePancake 30th Nov 2013, 8:57 AM edit delete reply
Go Home Worgan, You're drunk.
Viverred 30th Nov 2013, 1:31 AM edit delete reply
I give the guy full marks for initiative and enthusiasm, tactical plan gets a big FAT F minus.
Yamsomoto 30th Nov 2013, 4:47 AM edit delete reply
Oh the lawls. I needed that pick-me-up.
Mairoknee 30th Nov 2013, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
Love the 2nd last panel that expression... Priceless.
Dsl 30th Nov 2013, 8:12 PM edit delete reply
Lol. The happy puppy Worgen is like " look boss! We started with twenty men now there's 2! We'll have him beat in no time!" Also, Amocin, is Amo based off of yourself or are the names Amo and Amocin unrelated?
Amocin 30th Nov 2013, 9:21 PM edit delete reply
Amo is not at all based off of me or any character I may identify with.
Helleborewra 2nd Dec 2013, 1:47 AM edit delete reply
No Amo is based off of me!! Yet I am having troubles finding the hidden cameras Amo has in game. Or she's paying a guild mate for the dirt on me. *Just kidding of course*
dracoflamulas 30th Nov 2013, 10:53 PM edit delete reply
Oh wow, Drogan's a 40-man raid boss? That is. . . BOSS!
Senji 1st Dec 2013, 1:05 AM edit delete reply
Im never going to get over the face of the 2nd to last panel
evan 1st Dec 2013, 1:48 AM edit delete reply
I love amo becouse her character, she very tuff and hearty. But on the inside she is just a scared victum trapped by arthus.

furfan 1st Dec 2013, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
how does drogan throw people like that without opposable thumbs as a dragon O.O. (if he thew them with his mouth, then they would be ripped in half right?)
Dsl 1st Dec 2013, 7:34 PM edit delete reply
He just backhands ( back claws?) them or smacks them with his wings or tail.
Dsl 2nd Dec 2013, 10:03 PM edit delete reply
Back talon? Back foot? Back leg? What do
You call it on a dragon? For those few who have read age of fire, back sii?
Dsl 3rd Dec 2013, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
Oooh I forgot back saa
Stieve 5th Dec 2013, 5:56 PM edit delete reply
I've read that book!
Amocin 1st Dec 2013, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
Pretty much what DSL said.. You dont need thumbs to toss something. A tail snap, back hand, a thrust of the wings.

But anyhow, Drogan does have thumbs on his front paws.
Wvlfy 1st Dec 2013, 9:08 PM edit delete reply
Drogan just pimpslapped some of those DKs with his wing. That's how they fly.
Dreamfox 5th Dec 2013, 8:38 AM edit delete reply
Aside from the explanations below, I figured it was the one trying to hold down Drogan's tail all by himself.
Wvlfy 1st Dec 2013, 9:14 PM edit delete reply
I don't think they know that it's supposed to be a 25-man raid group, not 20.

No wonder Arthas is dead.
RJ 2nd Dec 2013, 2:48 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, but the new flex raid style is overtaking all the other raiding.
Oh and since this is my first post I have to ask if we'll see any lesbian action in the comic.
Silvermane 3rd Dec 2013, 1:53 PM edit delete reply
Also the first thought which popped into my head ^^
anon 1st Dec 2013, 11:44 PM edit delete reply
do you do any other comics?
Amocin 2nd Dec 2013, 11:08 AM edit delete reply
I have in the past, but this is the only comic I am actively working on at this time.
shoguncoco 2nd Dec 2013, 4:24 AM edit delete reply
I am not a person who normally minds small things but it is just something itching at the back of my mind, why Drogan and not Dragon?
Kliveksan 2nd Dec 2013, 10:27 AM edit delete reply
Well... mostly because he's a dragon whose name IS Drogan.
Amocin 2nd Dec 2013, 11:07 AM edit delete reply
Shall I call you Human?

Drogan is a Name
Dragon is what he is.
Rankamateur 3rd Dec 2013, 1:33 PM edit delete reply
In Warcraft lore, members of the red dragon flight have full (proper) names that end in -strasz for males, and -strasza for females. For example, Alexstrasza is the queen of the flight, and Korialstrasz is one of her more famous consorts.

This being the case, I wonder...would Drogan's full name be simply Droganstrasz? Or perhaps Droganostrasz, or Droganistrasz? Then again, it could be none of these, as Korialstrasz (mentioned above) called himself "Krasus" when in his mortal guise.

So, Amocin...wanna spill your guts, or save enlightenment for a later date?
Amocin 3rd Dec 2013, 1:41 PM edit delete reply
Its not really a spoiler, cause it isnt something thats all that shocking. Drogan is his mortal name, but not his name as a dragon, which would in fact end in strasz.
an anon 2nd Dec 2013, 2:11 PM edit delete reply
do you do commissions?
Amocin 2nd Dec 2013, 2:30 PM edit delete reply
I do not do commissions at this time. I am sorry.
Oni 2nd Dec 2013, 5:26 PM edit delete reply
So well, i wanted to do a little review, I just started watching the comic today and i'm really intrigued about all of it, the character's backstory, The scenarios, Everything. I'd love to see more about all of this awesome comic, keep up the good work, and as always, have a nice day
Crimson Flare 3rd Dec 2013, 6:23 AM edit delete reply
Another awesome page from you! Gotta love the flying Worgen, and the response from his leader.

Also, I totally forgot about donating for November. Is it too late for that now?
Dsl 3rd Dec 2013, 12:47 PM edit delete reply
Has any one read Dragon Champion? You'd understand my reference if you have.
Silvermane 3rd Dec 2013, 2:10 PM edit delete reply
On thing I've always wanted to know about Drogan is why he has chosen to appear as a Tauren in his mortal form? Most appear as human or elves with a few exceptions which can be chalked up to subterfuge to avoid being detected by other dragons or personality. As a hypothesis I learn towards the latter since Tauren culture is rather passive have little taste for war or conflict in general until they are forced to act, much like a Paladin. Also Taurens have a reverence for nature rivaled only by the Night Elves, a trait no doubt reflecting a Red Dragons nature. Or... I'm over analyzing lol
Amocin 3rd Dec 2013, 3:37 PM edit delete reply
Drogan choose his form for a number of reasons. One was a cosmetic reason.. he likes having horns, and having a fur color that closely matches his natural form is a plus. He also works very closely with the Druid circle, and what better form to hide in then one that your kin rarely chooses?

The nature of the Tauren is also very appealing and something he has no trouble sticking to.
Rankamateur 4th Dec 2013, 4:11 AM edit delete reply
Sounds to me like you got it spot-on, Silvermane. The Tauren race is an excellent fit for one such as Drogan, for all of the reasons you've cited.

There are a rare few examples of dragons choosing species other than human or elf for their mortal form. Chronormu (Chromie) comes to mind; a bronze dragon that takes the guise of a female gnome. There is also Rheastrasza, who wore the form of a female goblin.
Amocin 4th Dec 2013, 11:53 AM edit delete reply
And as far as I can recall there is also a Netherwing who took the form of a male goblin, and is the main quest giver when grinding faction for the netherwing drakes.
Vashdstampeede 3rd Dec 2013, 8:23 PM edit delete reply
First thought that went through my mind:

Worgen: Thinking to himself, "Hmm..Wut?!"

Worgen Flying through the air: "WENDY! I CAN FLY!!!!" or equally as funny, "I CAN SEE MY HOUSE FROM HERE!!!"

Worgen Second to last panel: "OH! BOSS!! Things are GREAT! Haven't we done such a wonderful job!?! We totally have this under control. ^_^"

Then the last panel had me rolling! With that bit of info, all I could think of is something for a de-motivational poster. "Drogan. Not the 20-25 man raid you were looking for."
Sickle 4th Dec 2013, 11:07 AM edit delete reply
I'm loving this comic so far, it's really well balanced, matching its wonderful art and storyline :3 Just curious though, what's the maximum donation?
Amocin 4th Dec 2013, 11:51 AM edit delete reply
There is no limit on how much you can donate. Donate as much or as little as you like. However if you are asking for how much you need to donate for all of the monthly pictures, thats another story.
Crimson Flare 4th Dec 2013, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
So I guess donating now won't get me the November picture?
Amocin 4th Dec 2013, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
I am sorry I forgot to respond to this. Yes its too late to donate for it as we are now in December. But to get a past month picture you can donate 10 or more.
Crimson Flare 5th Dec 2013, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
Could I see a preview of November's donation picture, if that is possible?
Dsl 5th Dec 2013, 5:56 PM edit delete reply
Y does no one answer me when I ask if anyone has read Dragon Champion? Me be sad
Amocin 5th Dec 2013, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
DSL, please keep it on topic here in the comments section. Unless you are relating something that happened in that book to this comic, it isnt really needed. Please also try not to spam the boards.

~Thank you.
Guest 6th Dec 2013, 2:37 AM edit delete reply
I was wondering if the "20 men" thing was a subtle reference to the upcoming Warlords of Draenor raiding system. That was announced a few weeks back, and this reminded me about it.
Guest 4th Aug 2020, 6:42 PM edit delete reply
Is that callow in the second to last panel?