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7th Oct 2019



7th Oct 2019

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Danthehordeman 7th Oct 2019, 4:21 AM edit delete reply
Wow that is so sweet and very touching. I hope your well have a nice day all the best take care be safe best wishes high regards Daniel
Danthehorseman 7th Oct 2019, 4:25 AM edit delete reply
I love there faces. I think you have done really well. Well done you keep it up. I hope you and the family is well. Have a nice evening Daniel
xonsamdi 7th Oct 2019, 4:36 AM edit delete reply
ohhhhh this is just awesome :D !!!! also um i think there is a spelling issue there : s "no wonder her magic gets out of hand with thank kind of teaching!"
Royell 7th Oct 2019, 9:18 AM edit delete reply
Also, I think "can" was suppose to be "can't" in the line:'you can beat it into submission.'

Love the way this is going, with Serid taking up his old role as teacher!
Amocin 7th Oct 2019, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
The can is proper in this sentence. "Natures is NOT an animal you CAN beat into submission." to use cant you would need "is not an animal, you cant beat it into submission."
Royell 7th Oct 2019, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Oh wow, I completely screwed up reading that sentence earlier.
Sorry about that,I thought i was being helpful. XD
Guesticus 7th Oct 2019, 5:14 PM edit delete reply
Easy error to make, if there had been a comma after 'animal' then it would have been correct to have 'can't'.
There should be a comma in the first bubble, "shape it, bend it to your will."
Amocin 7th Oct 2019, 5:27 PM edit delete reply
Ashla 7th Oct 2019, 5:07 AM edit delete reply
That is the most "huh" expression I have seen in a long, long time.
Xyz 7th Oct 2019, 5:40 AM edit delete reply
Kinar is the most beautiful worgen lady :3
3D 7th Oct 2019, 5:49 AM edit delete reply
I absolutely LOVE how Kinar is standing there like, "I have no idea what I am doing" :|
Kajex Surnahm 7th Oct 2019, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
One tells her to take control of the uncontrollable.
The other tells her to be in harmony with it.

It seems like Serid understands Kinar better than Mordin did.
Guest 7th Oct 2019, 10:33 AM edit delete reply
Between Sicha on the last page and how gorgeous Kinar is I cannot get enough of how beautiful your Worgen are
Windwalker 7th Oct 2019, 11:07 AM edit delete reply
Hmmm... According to Ghath Mordin did give Kinar balance as long as they were happy together. And Mordin was a druid himself before he was turned into a Death Knight, so unlike Koutack it's not like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

My first two theories are that either the balance Kinar gained from Mordin was from mental stability rather than improved technique, meaning that it wasn't his teachings but his presence which helped her, or Death Knight Mordin is forgetting some key details.

That said Mordin has shown himself capable of using druid powers even as a Death Knight, and he doesn't have much reason to intentionally give Kinar wrong advice currently, so assuming that there's no trickery involved it might also be that how to best use your druid powers might be a personal thing. Mordin might have a kind of firm mentality which allows him to channel his powers with iron control, whereas Kinar's softer nature requires her to use a more flexible method.
CM 7th Oct 2019, 7:05 PM edit delete reply
That certainly fits with Ghath's description on pg 267. "He gave her a calm that allowed her to control her power".

That said, the method he voices here likely works very well for Mordin, but it apparently doesn't work well for Kinar. My pet hypothesis is that it's a symptom of what they have to work with. To use analogy for a minute, it's like working with a fire. Campfires are easy to deal with, but controlling a wildfire more about routing its burn to a containable area than it is fighting it where it burns.
Windwalker 8th Oct 2019, 5:51 AM edit delete reply
@CM sorry, didn't see your post the first time around.

But I agree with that analogy. If we take all the available data and combine our theories the most likely conclusion would be that while Mordin's method works for Mordin, Kinar's magic/bond with nature is wilder/more primal which makes it more potent but also means that it has to be steered carefully rather than controlled forcefully.
Windwalker 7th Oct 2019, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
Third theory: Ghath explained it as Mordin having control and Kinar having power. It might be that the reason Mordin can successfully use the method of iron control is because he doesn't have as much power so it's easier to shape it.

Although even then there'd still be the fact that Serid, an accomplished but not exceptionally powerful druid, considers Mordin's technique a sure fire method for things to go wrong. The way he phrases it makes it sound like that method would always be a bad idea, not just with Kinar.

It might be that Serid and Mordin have different perspectives on druid magic which works for them, or this is supposed to be a sign that there's something fishy going on with Mordin regarding both his druidic magic and his memories from before he got turned.
Dreamfox 8th Oct 2019, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
The people of Gilneas learned to be Druids without guidance from experienced teachers sometime after they closed to gates.
It's quite possible that with their more technological outlook they got some things wrong.
You can't beat nature into submission, but nature can be quite forgiving. It may well be that Kinar was potentially the most powerful Druid in Gilneas and she tried to keep her powers under control by sheer force of will, instead of going with it. She wasn't as much magically charged, but tried to keep the lid on something that was never meant to be controlled like that.
Druids with less potential might never run into a problem.

At the same time it was something that was part of the Tauren culture for a long time, not to mention the millennia of experience the Night Elves have.
Alexandra Longden 7th Oct 2019, 3:48 PM edit delete reply
Ahh it's not how to train your dragon but "How to train your Druid" hehe clever ;D
Maryalee 7th Oct 2019, 6:39 PM edit delete reply
This is why Serid is a Master Druid. Mechanics are DPS. Druidism is akin to Shamanism, understanding how to work in cooperation with the forces you are using. And I have to say, he seems to understand Kinar better than anybody else around her.
Rembrant 8th Oct 2019, 12:34 AM edit delete reply
As I expected, Serid's the best one to teach her. I love the full circle aspect of it, as the whole story started out with him becoming her teacher.
Cap'n Jack 8th Oct 2019, 3:24 AM edit delete reply

Guesticus 8th Oct 2019, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
Wait, Serid's idea is just for Kinar to ignore it and hope it will go away on its own? o_O
Guesticus 8th Oct 2019, 7:17 AM edit delete reply
Attempted to make a post yesterday about how Kinar needs to find a balance between the 'Control the Power' and 'Let the Power Wash over you' schools
Personally feel Serid's school is far too passive to ever be effective
Amocin 8th Oct 2019, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
Think about training a dog for a moment..

Do you use the choke collar to make it do what you want, or do you give it a gentle hand, understanding, and positive reinforcement? Its about the method.. Its not sitting back and hoping everything works out right, its about taking a more gentle approach.
Guesticus 8th Oct 2019, 12:54 PM edit delete reply
Like said: it's a balance between the two

And certainly not going to tell you how to write your characters and tell your story

Just personal opinion about how Serid's suggestion doesn't (or didn't) sound like it would be any good
It really depends on if Kinar is still in control or not: if she is, and just doesn't know what to do, then sure, 'letting it fade' away might work, if she is <I>not</I> in control, 'letting it fade away' could mean what little control she had will be gone and there would be no stopping the storm

Again, this is your story, you know what is going to happen (and why and how), was just giving opinion on what has been shown
Kajex Surnahm 10th Oct 2019, 12:25 AM edit delete reply
It seems like it would be the height of hubris to categorize a Druid's power as a means of commanding the forces of nature; in most fantasy settings, nature has its own agency and is not at the beck and call of anyone.

There's a reason why many plotlines involving Rangers and Druids in fantasy revolve around respecting nature and its fury, as opposed to forcing it to one's own will.